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VOTE YES ON QUESTION 2

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[Nov 4,2008 7:59am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""]
it just makes sense
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[Nov 4,2008 8:09am - ouchdrummer ""]
obviously.
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[Nov 4,2008 8:12am - corpus_colostomy ""]
yes on one and two make sense to me.
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[Nov 4,2008 8:17am - thuringwethil ""]
If you vote yes on 1 the next time you want to take something out from the library you'll find the item isn't there because we couldn't afford to get it.

FACT.

(***predicted answer: fuck the library, I'll buy it myself with the money I saved from no taxes, etc.)
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[Nov 4,2008 8:19am - brian_dc ""]
yes on 1 assumes that the state will magically becoming fiscally responsible because their hand will be forced.

well, my good friends, I say to you, "l-o-fucking-l"
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[Nov 4,2008 8:19am - ouchdrummer ""]
I obviously like the idea of no income tax, but there are too many programs that we need, that will have no other funding otherwise.
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[Nov 4,2008 8:29am - corpus_colostomy ""]

thuringwethil said:If you vote yes on 1 the next time you want to take something out from the library you'll find the item isn't there because we couldn't afford to get it.



OK SO NO MORE INTER-LIBRARY LOANS? AND WHAT OF THE INTERNET AND ONLINE RESOURCES?

LOL*
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[Nov 4,2008 8:30am - brian_dc ""]
and public schools

WHO NEEDS EM!

...wait
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[Nov 4,2008 8:30am - corpus_colostomy ""]

ouchdrummer said:I obviously like the idea of no income tax, but there are too many programs that we need, that will have no other funding otherwise.


they are gonna fucking make cuts anyways on programs anyways.
lets take into consideration that INCOME TAX IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
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[Nov 4,2008 8:31am - corpus_colostomy ""]

brian_dc said:and public schools

WHO NEEDS EM!

...wait



in their current state? with allll the cuts they have made already?
i agree...who needs em.
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[Nov 4,2008 8:37am - ouchdrummer ""]

corpus_colostomy said:
ouchdrummer said:I obviously like the idea of no income tax, but there are too many programs that we need, that will have no other funding otherwise.


they are gonna fucking make cuts anyways on programs anyways.
lets take into consideration that INCOME TAX IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.



They are totally unconstitutional, that's a fact. Taxing on the individual was an amendment that never went was passed. And i also know that they are making cuts anyways, which they should in fact do, because i agree there is some wasteful spending. But there are still too many programs that would be shut down if the income tax was abolished.
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[Nov 4,2008 8:41am - corpus_colostomy ""]

ouchdrummer said:
corpus_colostomy said:
ouchdrummer said:I obviously like the idea of no income tax, but there are too many programs that we need, that will have no other funding otherwise.


they are gonna fucking make cuts anyways on programs anyways.
lets take into consideration that INCOME TAX IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.



They are totally unconstitutional, that's a fact. Taxing on the individual was an amendment that never went was passed. And i also know that they are making cuts anyways, which they should in fact do, because i agree there is some wasteful spending. But there are still too many programs that would be shut down if the income tax was abolished.



mass has ten million diff taxes to compensate...and i mean fuck, if your gonna force me to have 'heath insurance,' or penalize me with more taxes (if i cant afford health insurance how could i afford a tax penalty)...then please let me have the opp to keep all the money 'I' earn so that i can allocate it as i see fit.
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[Nov 4,2008 8:43am - arilliusbm ""]
I'm voting a big "NO" on question 2. Why would I want an illegal drug decriminalized? Put them fuckers in jail and let them pay the price. It's a GATEWAY DRUG people. Sometimes I wonder if you guys graduated D.A.R.E.
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[Nov 4,2008 8:46am - the_reverend ""]
will someone please think of the children?
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[Nov 4,2008 8:51am - arilliusbm ""]
yea, drugs are for losers. weed is for hippies. come on guys.
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[Nov 4,2008 8:59am - thuringwethil ""]

corpus_colostomy said:
thuringwethil said:If you vote yes on 1 the next time you want to take something out from the library you'll find the item isn't there because we couldn't afford to get it.



OK SO NO MORE INTER-LIBRARY LOANS? AND WHAT OF THE INTERNET AND ONLINE RESOURCES?

LOL*



well everyone needs to vote their own viewpoint.

Just sayin' if you want to use public internet in the library to download that .rar file, there won't be any computers for ya to do that on

I'll be workin' in the academic sector next week anyways, but once the MBLC told me what Question One could mean for public access, I was like, "Oh...shit"
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[Nov 4,2008 8:59am - the_reverend ""]
nice this will be awesome when it passes or fails and means nothing and everyone ignores the results besides NORMAL.
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[Nov 4,2008 9:00am - arilliusbm ""]
NORML*
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[Nov 4,2008 9:00am - thuringwethil ""]
http://mblc.state.ma.us/mblc/news/releases/past-releases/2008/nr080905.php

yepper-doodles!
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[Nov 4,2008 9:01am - arilliusbm ""]
and yes, I was joking. my vote is going to be "FUCK YES"
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[Nov 4,2008 9:04am - the_reverend ""]
does fuck yes get counted twice but mean just as little?
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[Nov 4,2008 9:12am - mok  ""]
vote yes on question 2 so metalguy can smoke a doob
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[Nov 4,2008 9:13am - Josh_Martin ""]
First of all, the arguement that income tax is unconstitutional only applies to federal income tax.

Second, you people realize that question #1 is non-binding right? Even if it passes, it means nothing.

Fortunately, question #2 is binding so vote YES ON 2, assholes.

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[Nov 4,2008 9:52am - Sxealex cell  ""]
No yes yes 4 me
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[Nov 4,2008 9:55am - the_reverend ""]
josh, please tell a DEA agent that #2 is binding.
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[Nov 4,2008 1:36pm - ouchdrummer ""]

the_reverend said:josh, please tell a DEA agent that #2 is binding.


i don't think it matters what a DEA agent thinks, even if they arrest you with less than an ounce, once you get to court you will not get jail time. Or probation for that matter, and that's why it's so important.
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[Nov 4,2008 1:38pm - RichHorror ""]
No on 2 is to hippies as Obama is to hillbillies.
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[Nov 4,2008 1:39pm - ouchdrummer ""]

Sxealex%20cell said:No yes yes 4 me


i am happy to hear that obviously while you don't smoke, you realize what this question entails. I know too many people who don't smoke, therefor think this shouldn't pass. Strangely enough though, those same people drink alcohol like it's water.
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[Nov 4,2008 2:00pm - pam ""]
>vote yes on two

Done.
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[Nov 4,2008 2:17pm - Josh_Martin ""]

ouchdrummer said:I know too many people who don't smoke, therefor think this shouldn't pass.


That is so fucking retarded. Weed isn't even the main issue here, its about resources. Do these people you know really want their tax dollars to keep being spent on arresting, prosecuting, and putting on probation people who got caught with a little bit of weed?

Anyone who votes yes on 1 and also no on 2 needs to be castrated.
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[Nov 4,2008 2:50pm - RustyPS ""]
Weed is no worse than alcohol or nicotine.

I only smoke weed every so often, so whatever goes through on question 2 doesn't really effect me personally, but I think if alcohol and nicotine are legal, why not marijuana?
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[Nov 4,2008 2:52pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
Here's a question. If Question 2 passes... do the people incarcerated for minor possession get released?
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[Nov 4,2008 2:56pm - darkwor  ""]
not sure, but my cousin just had his hearing for his 2nd possession offense this morning (he was holding a gram) and he was let off entirely. after spending a great deal of money on a criminal defense lawyer.
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[Nov 4,2008 2:56pm - Josh_Martin ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:Here's a question. If Question 2 passes... do the people incarcerated for minor possession get released?


I don't think anyone is incarcerated for simple possession. Maybe if there's someone out there with like 20 convictions but I doubt that.

The only way you're going to jail for that is if you get convicted, get put on probation, and then you violate your probation. And that's a whole other can of worms.
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[Nov 4,2008 3:04pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
ah
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[Nov 4,2008 3:15pm - arilliusbm ""]
Free 'brownies' for everyone once this gets passed.
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[Nov 4,2008 3:18pm - pam ""]
Will we be the first state with this sort of law if 2 passes? Anyone know?
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[Nov 4,2008 3:23pm - arilliusbm ""]
www.norml.org

tells you each states' laws in regards to possession.
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[Nov 4,2008 3:24pm - arilliusbm ""]
you're smart, put the http:// yourself.
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[Nov 4,2008 4:07pm - ouchdrummer ""]

Josh_Martin said:
FuckIsMySignature said:Here's a question. If Question 2 passes... do the people incarcerated for minor possession get released?


I don't think anyone is incarcerated for simple possession. Maybe if there's someone out there with like 20 convictions but I doubt that.

The only way you're going to jail for that is if you get convicted, get put on probation, and then you violate your probation. And that's a whole other can of worms.



first off, the "people" i know are office duchebags downtown, and i obviously don't agree/condone/excuse their decisions. Secondly, i know people who were incarcerated for it. Just possession. Under an ounce too, granted it was a short period, but it is possible, and no - Question 2 would not be retroactive, anyone incarcerated/on probation for minor possession, would continue serving whatever sentence they had received.;
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[Nov 4,2008 4:20pm - Josh_Martin ""]

ouchdrummer said:
Josh_Martin said:
FuckIsMySignature said:Here's a question. If Question 2 passes... do the people incarcerated for minor possession get released?


I don't think anyone is incarcerated for simple possession. Maybe if there's someone out there with like 20 convictions but I doubt that.

The only way you're going to jail for that is if you get convicted, get put on probation, and then you violate your probation. And that's a whole other can of worms.



first off, the "people" i know are office duchebags downtown, and i obviously don't agree/condone/excuse their decisions. Secondly, i know people who were incarcerated for it. Just possession. Under an ounce too, granted it was a short period, but it is possible, and no - Question 2 would not be retroactive, anyone incarcerated/on probation for minor possession, would continue serving whatever sentence they had received.;



Sentenced, or just couldn't make bail? How many priors did they have?

Over the last 10-15 years I've been busted for weed 4 times and it wasn't even until the 4th time that they wouldn't cwaf it anymore. And then it was still only a fine. There has got to be more to their stories than just simple posession.
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[Nov 4,2008 4:21pm - Josh_Martin ""]

pam said:Will we be the first state with this sort of law if 2 passes? Anyone know?


No we'd be the 12th or 13th or something.
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[Nov 4,2008 4:45pm - sxealex ""]

ouchdrummer said:
Sxealex%20cell said:No yes yes 4 me


i am happy to hear that obviously while you don't smoke, you realize what this question entails. I know too many people who don't smoke, therefor think this shouldn't pass. Strangely enough though, those same people drink alcohol like it's water.



Yea wtf if anything should be illegal its alcohol.
not that anything should be illegal. just not my thing XD
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[Nov 4,2008 4:55pm - weed  ""]
weed
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[Nov 4,2008 5:51pm - matt breen  ""]
yes alcohol should be illegal long before marijuana. But in my opinion either should be illegal.
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[Nov 4,2008 7:43pm - deathfiendslislisli  ""]

brian_dc said:and public schools

WHO NEEDS EM!

...wait



DENTAL PLAN!
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[Nov 4,2008 7:57pm - Murph ""]

matt%20breen said:yes alcohol should be illegal long before marijuana. But in my opinion either should be illegal.


BEERS > QUEERS
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[Nov 4,2008 7:59pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
weed is for niggers
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[Nov 4,2008 8:35pm - pam ""]
Looks like it's passing
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[Nov 4,2008 8:37pm - Lamp ""]
I am stoned for the first time in close to three months oddly enough.

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