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[QUOTE="ShadowSD:458206"]PatMeebles said:[QUOTE]So what happens when a tradeoff becomes necessary for the survival of the very freedoms you cherish so much? What if the uncompromising desire for freedom is the cause of a longterm loss of freedom that will never be recovered? It hurts me to say this, but we cannot let the constitution become a deathpact. [/QUOTE] This sounds like a case of realism triumphing over idealism at first glance, which is a good thing, particularly in a crisis. Certainly, if presented with a bargain where you agree to give up some freedoms in exchange for not losing them all, the only wise choice is to take it. But we will never get such a bargain in honest terms, if history is any indication. When freedoms disappear, they don't come back - not without a lot of bloodshed; you can't store them in a bank and take them out later. The more likely bargain we'll be presented with is a sliding one, not to be trusted, that asks more in return each time, until those freedoms are gone [b]permanently[/b]. Historically speaking, it is far greater danger to us that we will let our freedoms erode ourselves than that we will lose them trying to protect them.[/QUOTE]
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