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[QUOTE="HailTheLeaf:458458"]PatMeebles said:[QUOTE]Josh Martin NLI said:[QUOTE]PatMeebles said:[QUOTE]Josh Martin NLI said:[QUOTE]To trade freedom for security is an insult to all those who gave their lives to protect our freedom.[/QUOTE] So what happens when a tradeoff becomes necessary for the survival of the very freedoms you cherish so much? What if the uncompromising desire for freedom is the cause of a longterm loss of freedom that will never be recovered? It hurts me to say this, but we cannot let the constitution become a deathpact. [/QUOTE] If the founding fathers thought that way we'd still be a british colony. Live free or die. [/QUOTE] You obviously have no idea what the Founding Fathers thought Ben Franklin favored keeping secrets from Congress because they'd never keep vital operations from the Public and, therefore, would compromise national security. John Adams vehemently opposed Shay's rebellion because, even though rebellion against a tyrannical monarchy was ok, rebellion against a free democratic republic had to be put down harshly. etc.[/QUOTE] John Adams opposed Shay's rebellion because John Adams was one of the rich white men who wanted a system of goverment where only wealthy men like himself could vote and own land, whereas the men in Shay's rebellion wanted equality and representation in their government. [/QUOTE]
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